evankirk
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You guys really should read this if you havent already seen it. This is the exact text from Michael Wilsons press release.
< http://www.livefortheone.com./eagle/major.php >
It was fun while it lasted babies! 
My blog moved. It's at evankirk.com now! Peace!
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Woot
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June 2003
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Wow. Heather_Nicole in There
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Rickpa
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Jan. 2004
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This is a shame. I am not a big fan of Second Life, but I am glad to have it for backup.
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Techzen
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Feb. 2003
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Damn
This is not good,
but I guess it could be worse. United There stands, Divided There falls.
Strength through numbers.
Power to the People!
"I came here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum."
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TopCat
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Jan. 2004
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| Quote | | 5. We will no longer be making regular updates to the software, and we will not be fixing bugs. |
:o
I wonder if that free money bug is still around...
EDIT: Oh yeah, I've always been wondering, why in the name of all that doesn't suck do you keep adding a . after www.livefortheone.com  THERES NO NEED! Forum Superhero, leaps tall spampiles in a single bound, races through topics and replies to the ones that need it, and can always lend a witty remark or criticism, to better Forumites everywhere!
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evankirk
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April 2003
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Yeah, we been trying to figure that crap out also. It doesnt effect the link, but we have gone over and over our code 100 times, and cant find the reason for it.
Sometimes that damn period shows up, and sometimes it doesnt.
My blog moved. It's at evankirk.com now! Peace!
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Twist
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Aug. 2003
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After reading that, one can only feel bad for griefing them now. There is no justice, and no Peace. -Hiteckart
I talk too damn much on this forum
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Cytra
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Aug. 2003
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Thought I would post my two cents here...
There is a community, our community.
I guess many of us think that There is going under... I just see it as the next step. I have not given up on our little online world because we have made it what it is, and without us it would be nothing.
What did I get out of my experience in There? I have met many wonderful people, and have had many great experiences. With these new changes, will it be any different for me? No. I will keep logging in to see old friends and meet new ones. Quite simply, There is a great place to be.
It is up to us, the community, to take it to the next level.
The way I see it is, there is no one programming our real world on a daily basis... we have evolved and become the civilizations that we are now. We were created, and set loose to become. I don't think it is any different than what is happening now.
I have been asked what I will do with my There In Person website (http://www.thereinperson.com). As long as There is online, so will we.
I am pro community, and hope you are too.
See you There 
Cytra
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The_White_Light
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Mar. 2003
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Wow, gone for the day and the **** hits the fan...sort of.
Well, There will still be there I suppose, just as it is (and for the most part, just how it was - no updates or bug fixes...is that any different?) 
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Foxfayte
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July 2003
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"Q: Is There going to close?
A: No. The company has just received new funding and will continue to operate; only we will now be focusing most of our resources on building out our platform."
New funding?
AKA: We were just bought out. 
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Rick_Slick
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Sep. 2003
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I hope There doesn't cease to exist.
My life won't be the same not being able to log in and hang out and/or chat with my friends.... Sloane, Jude, Kande, Kiwani, Deebee, Daemona, Rosie, Techzen, Rain, Honeybunny, Foxfayte, Lady_Renee, etc etc etc (sorry if you're my friend and I forgot to mention you, I've had two Smirnoffs and I'm a lil loopy).
But most of all, I will be lost without you, Rizzo_Gal. I don't have many close friends in real life... I tend not to get close to most people. But even just as a virtual sweetheart, you have gone far beyond that and have become my best and closest friend. You are very special to me.  
Please, There, don't make me say goodbye. =( Rick Slick
"Chicken train... runnin' all day. Chicken train... runnin' all day. Can't get on, can't get off, chicken train take your chickens away."
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TopCat
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Jan. 2004
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Anyone willing to help me buy the code for the servers/program if they do die and decide to liquidate their assets?
Everyone who donates, if it succeeds, gets stock in the company! Omgz!
"There.com is now owned by the players of There, and as such will be an actually fun experience."
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kiwani
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July 2003
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 I feel the same way Rick..Youve been a great friend and I would hate not being able to ... well lets enjoy whatever it is we have left.. I for one am going to be an even bigger ass than before and now that Im not mentoring anymore I can have a whole lot of fun lol 
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Chapmac
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Feb. 2004
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So who's going to start the pool for the day the curtain is actually drawn? I'm saying 60 days before it's bought out or "deemed no longer finacially feasible to keep opertaing". Any takers?
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evankirk
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April 2003
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I agree with Cytra. I personally am not going anywhere until they boot us out the door. As for the new funding, no, it does not mean being bought out. It means they received funding to focus on the software platform and the engine. It seems to me like There is going to become an R and D company and not a content provider.
I wouldnt be surprised to see the existing world sold at some point, and that not be a bad thing. There damn sure hasnt take care of it in a long time, so unless they sold out to AOL, which would make my head explode, it could possibly be the best thing we have seen yet.
Until then, like Cytra said. Its us the people that are There. Screw the company.
My blog moved. It's at evankirk.com now! Peace!
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fieryone
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Feb. 2004
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| Quote (Foxfayte @ May 22 2004, 12:35 am) | New funding?
AKA: We were just bought out. |
I wonder if the funding isn't actually just more money from the Army and that is where There will really be turning it's focus.
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Sloane_Maddoxe
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July 2003
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Ok - Here is my 2 TBux worth on this situation...
Cytra: BRAVO and Well said! I couldn't agree more and feel the same way.
Evan: I'm with you buddy, They will drag me kicking and screaming before I leave willingly.
As for everyone else: You need to realize that the time you have spent in THERE has been precious time that you have used exploring, making new friends, hosting event, etc....
For the most part those times were good. (of course we all have bad times but overcome them to enjoy ourselves once again) Those times aren't over. Spend what time you do have CONTINUING to enjoy yourself, your friends and your THERE experience. Make the best of it!
You can stand in Karuna or where ever you want and protest, bitch, whine, moan and complain and it wont make a damn difference. SO - instead of being sad, miserable, and angry take this time to strengthen bonds (get yahoo ids) secure friendships and just continue to have fun doing the things you enjoy in this game. Keep smiling, keep your chins up and be happy. If not for the time left then be happy for the times that you did have.
This is OUR WORLD! Why should we give up on it as easily as they did?
I intend on making the best of it and will go down with the ship like a valliant captain. I suggest you all try to see the good and do the same.
Looking forward to more fun times with you all....
Sincerely -
Sloanie My BOLOGNA has a first name its S-L-O-A-N-E, My BOLOGNA has a second name its M-A-D-D-O-X-E...blah blah blah...Cuz Sloanie Maddoxe has a way with B-O-L-O-G-N-A.
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Sean_Anthony
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Sep. 2003
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OmG! 
Well Im glad I have Sl and FF.
Im Syanin Xevious on Sl and just Syanin in Final Fantasy's
Assura Server. From Tso to There to FF and then Sl too.
I haven't been inworld as much Ill pop in but this is sad.
Lordy when I wrote up that note in the offical forums
saying There wasn't a viable product I was hoping they would
change (for the better). Its not closed yet but still sad...
Miss too many people to list.
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ScottyIV
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May 2003
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Im Scotty Everet SL, I will look for you Sean. I will probably be in SL a bit more now that I will probably be deleting There from my computer. May as well save the disk space.
I will miss alot of people in There. I have made alot of wonderful friends during the past year. It's a shame that THere Inc doesnt care about its customers. I really dont think they ever did.
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TheRav_64
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July 2003
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Well....THIS really F**KING SUXS........to much time on the army one i guess .....Dang ....Thought the army would give there money for doing the service that there was doing i guess NOT!!!!......Federal Government suxs.........  
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Teal
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April 2004
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Ok, ok, ok, here we go my two cents....
First off, the same panic that surrounds There today surrounded There a few months ago when all the Greeters were let go, and 4 months later, There is still up and running! Secondly, no updates or bug fixes, hmm lets see the lag and bad PB experiences have been there since PB2 and before, lol no biggie there right? And I am constantly hearing members complain about wanting more control of the world, well here is your oppertunity, step up. I guess my perspective is quite simple, "we" (the members of There) are THERE! Its that simple, we can either help to make There a success, or not, the choice is ours. All of these things in which arnt going to be happeneing per There Inc, really havent happened much anyway, so, what is the big deal? Dont get me wrong I love There and my There Family, however, it is us the members whom made There what it is today and continue striving to make it better. With out us There is nothing. So in closing, let me just say, that if for any reason the doors close in There, I have some of the fondest memories one could have. And my "friends" in There, arent just my friends in There, their lives, have impacted mine also out here, and Im certain we will be keeping in touch. But people lets not panic until there is a reason to do so. I mean, this isnt the first annoucment that things were going down hill and I am certain it wont be the last. The key is having fun, doing things as you normally would do, and ENJOYING YOUR TIME IN THERE! To many of us this announcment is no surpise, and I for one am not panicing. All of these thing in which arnt going to happen, as I have stated never really happened ofen enough anyway to make them habits, so have fun, laugh, and enjoy yourselves, and I cant wait to see you all There!
Hugs~n~Kisses,
Teal, aka HoneyBunny, Buns, and Honey!
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TheRav_64
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July 2003
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Well....THIS really F**KING SUXS........to much time on the army one i guess .....Dang ....Thought the army would give there money for doing the service that there was doing i guess NOT!!!!......Federal Government suxs.........
Of course we can awlays blame THEE almight George bush for how the Economy is also ....spending all of our money and breaking the backs of americans ....fighting 2 wars at the same time ....draining our reserver money for hi9s own purpose ....i mean almost 2$-3$ for a gallon of gas ....guezz then he blames other ppl for its when he is tired up in the oil industry and he profitted 1 milloin dollors from the gas prices ... him and the federal government is to blame for how things are going and ppl are getting laid off let and right ,,,when he has went out bought his 2 grils cars .... guezz the money compbined for the cars would have paid off my house ....oh man he probally took the money he made for the gas price hikes and bought the cars for them .... we are the loosers in all of this .....HEY!!!! had a thought .... If There is reading this ... why not bring in SAGA/Nitendo....ECT.... to help back them up .....cuz with high gas prices the cost of our food is going up as well ....I think we are in a depression ... and big one ...
I also have a thought see im not good at designing any thing but i see all these ppl doing things here why not the ppl here that know about graphic ect ..... or even the hackers here help there keep this program the way its supposed to be ....cuz i know you computer geeks are the best out there i know you all could help there with patches ect......us as the ppl of there need to unite together and help there out .... as we enjoy the game and want to see it always sty alive.....
peace and rock on
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TopCat
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Jan. 2004
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NOONE IS WITH ME TO BUY THE PRODUCT AND MAKE A NEWER BETTER WORLD?
I mean come on! All your wants and dreams come true. I suppose it's like they said in the matrix, the humans reject perfection. Which is sad, you could have there and it wouldn't suck.
Oh well, Looks like I'll have to fund this all myself. I wont reveal how much i'm starting bids at but I've got a good shot. Forum Superhero, leaps tall spampiles in a single bound, races through topics and replies to the ones that need it, and can always lend a witty remark or criticism, to better Forumites everywhere!
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TheRav_64
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July 2003
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how can we pay for things in there or real life if prices get jacked up so high ... then ppl in companyies get laid off... here one of the planets are going under which means 700+ are going to be fired from thier jobs....things need to stay at home ... bush funds every country but his own ....kids are going hungry right here at home ....and can tell ya how bad it is for educating our kids these days .... not enough around for that too ....
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Chicken Little
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May 2004
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THE SKY IS FALLING, THEY SAY THEY HAVE NEW MONEY SO THAT MEANS THEYRE CLOSING!
OH NOESSSS!
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Cirris
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Mar. 2003
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From what it looks like... they see no profit in the current world scheme... so they are pushing packaging the engine itself to market to third party developers and continue working on the army project.
They say they'll keep the world open for 90 days and then evaluate on a case by case financial basis.
But let's face it those 90 days come the world is gonna close. This stupid announcement has the Tbux market flooded with selling not enough buying the market is slowly going to disintegrate. noone will buy Tbuxs from There at the current market price when they can get prolly double or + rate thru third party groups.
after 90 days they'll shut down when they see they aren't hardly making any money since most people will prolly switch to one of many other V worlds floating around SL and TSO come to mind on the short list.
With all that being said i'm going to assume August 21st comes along the world will close.. lets make the most of the situation while we can and enjoy the last summer of There.
I'm already practicing my August one liners now.
"hey baby the world is coming to an end, wanna go out with a bang?!"
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DemonDan
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Oct. 2003
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class action lawsuit for beta testers. less than a year is hardly "lifetime."
I'll honestly feel ripped off and I'm very rarely in there anymore LOL.
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TopCat
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Jan. 2004
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If you do it I'll join, so you won't be alone. Plus its your money.
7 months != life. Forum Superhero, leaps tall spampiles in a single bound, races through topics and replies to the ones that need it, and can always lend a witty remark or criticism, to better Forumites everywhere!
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Kuffs
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Nov. 2003
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Ok guys, heres the real question...
Why does the company sound like its going under?
1) Unless you are a designer, you have been shelling out cash to convert to T$ whenever you see something you want. This is of course in addition to the monthly fees you pay if you are on the monthly plan. Also we shell out cash for in game voice. There are newbies signing up everyday, and they are all paying for the activation fee, their package fee, and any extra's like voice, explorer pack, music...etc. Now I ask you...Where has the money gone??
2) Im sure someone with legal expertise (attourney, lawyer, paralegal) can look up the laws concerning ownership of digital properties and technologies. Everyone who has converted cash into T$ has bought digital property with their money. If the company goes under and scraps everything, they legally need to reemburse users for currency converted in game (remember folks, it is still a currency exchange whether you believe it or not). Someone earlier mentioned a class action lawsuit whether jokingly or not it is a real possibility.
3)Was There possibly an online Enron? We chuck out some cash, they rake it in and pretend to be fixing bugs that never get fixed. Has anyone ever actually been to the There offices? I dont doubt that it was run by a handful of folks in a warehouse somewhere with a dozen or so servers keeping it up. This would easily explain why tech support was so hard to come by and hard to reach. This would also explain why the servers were overloaded so easily and it never seemed to get better. It might even explain why it is so hard to get ANY info from the website about who is running There, where it is located, and why tey are so secretive. I wonder how easy it is to get a government contract.
4) From where I see it, There was $h1tty software, we can ALL agree with that no matter how much you love the world. How high could operating costs be for a company that bases itself on some really $h1tty, extremely outdated software. Where the hell did all the money go?? I expect that the operating personel of There (4 tech guys in a warehouse somewhere) decided that they had made enough money and it was time to cut and run before getting raked over the coals by the public. Therefore they left the software running, made a nice little announcement that pretty much says "we wont be here anymore for you" and moved on to their next money making scheme.
5)Whoever made the comment that There closing was the fault of the Bush administration and a bad economy must be some kind of nut-job hatemonger. Why does everything in the world that is bad have to get blamed on the Bush Administration, and not on poor decisions made by stupid Fu@king people. Because of the Bush adminstration I get a lot more cash in my pocket at tax time even though I make next to nothing, thanks to Bush's new adoption program my wife and I are now in line to adopt a child since we cannot conceive again (long sad story). As far as I see it, he has made my life a hell of alot better than it was without him, so back the Fu@k off!
To everyone else, have a nice day and lets hold There accountable.:)
Your speaker of truth and master of racing games (lol)
-Kuffs (kuffsthegrey@yahoo.com)
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TopCat
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| Quote (Kuffs @ May 23 2004, 9:20 pm) | | 3)Was There possibly an online Enron? We chuck out some cash, they rake it in and pretend to be fixing bugs that never get fixed. Has anyone ever actually been to the There offices? |
< http://www.thereuniverse.com/cgi-bin....85;st=3 >
I'm sure you didn't steal that Enron bit from my TherEnron joke.
Plus, that was in my thread about visiting theres offices, something you also mentioned. Please, cite sources. Meaning me.
| Quote (Kuffs @ May 23 2004, 9:20 pm) | | 5)Whoever made the comment that There closing was the fault of the Bush administration and a bad economy must be some kind of nut-job hatemonger. Why does everything in the world that is bad have to get blamed on the Bush Administration, and not on poor decisions made by stupid Fu@king people. |
Actually this is very good.
I agree, how the hell do you blame there closing on bush? Jesus, thats just way too far fetched.
I do blame the patriot act on bush though. Forum Superhero, leaps tall spampiles in a single bound, races through topics and replies to the ones that need it, and can always lend a witty remark or criticism, to better Forumites everywhere!
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