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honeybunny

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July 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 4:12 pm

Attatched is am email I recieved this morning from There:

Dear Member,

We are very excited to offer you the opportunity to participate in the first phase of There's
brand new Beta Testing Program! This is an exclusive opportunity to try the newest features in There before everyone else, and it's only being offered to experienced members of the community like you!

Starting next month, we will be developing a new Beta environment (on separate servers) where we can periodically test new features before releasing them to the public. We are committed to continue improving the quality, usability, and FUN of There, and believe ongoing Beta testing is essential to making this possible.

That's where you come in! Join the Beta program, and you get to test all the newest features and functions on a separate, limited-access development environment. Plus, your feedback and comments will help us make There even better! Please note: membership in this program is by invite only, so we will only be accepting applications from members we have contacted directly (as the program evolves next year, we hope to make application available to all subscribed members).

Interested?
Simply apply and you'll hear from us soon!

We hope you are as thrilled with this opportunity as we are!

There_Community Opinions are like arseholes we have all got em and they are all differnet!

Chagall

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Oct. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 4:23 pm

Lucky duck!!!

http://www.pinkbunnyslippers.net

SilverFox

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July 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 4:29 pm

Nice.

Enjoy

... but I being poor, have only my dreams. I have spread my dreams under your feet. Tread softly, becuase you tread on my dreams.

Hush

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April 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 4:34 pm

Ooh I got that too.. Finally something to inject the excitement back into There

Blaster

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June 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 4:50 pm

I got one, what exactly is this? As what we're playing now is beta are they asking us to trial alpha stuff for them? And what does

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you must be able to commit to at least 50% of the playtests being held

mean? We have to participate in some test related events or we don't get paid? And that's another thing, it mentions nothing about compensation.

Shmoo

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July 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 4:51 pm

Yep, I got it too and promptly sent in my application thingy.

Carpenter

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Sep. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 4:54 pm

Quote (Blaster @ Dec. 04 2003, 4:50 pm)

I got one, what exactly is this? As what we're playing now is beta are they asking us to trial alpha stuff for them? And what does

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you must be able to commit to at least 50% of the playtests being held

mean? We have to participate in some test related events or we don't get paid? And that's another thing, it mentions nothing about compensation.

Actually, we're officially out of Beta, and in limited public release. They are looking for people to beta test features which they've already tested inhouse.

As far as compensation goes, they didn't pay us to beta test before, so why would they pay us to betatest now?

The compensation will probably be 1. Getting to see the new stuff first and 2. Being able to help knock out bugs by finding flaws better than any inhouse team can, and therefore making There a better place for us all.

evankirk

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April 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 4:58 pm

I got one too. This is sorta like the Test Center city on TSO. A way to test new things before release to see if it works or blows up. This is a VERY good thing! There 4 All - Community Journal
http://there4all.thereinperson.com

"Old bagel hating, cranky southern old codger" - Lordpenquin
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Blaster

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June 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 4:58 pm

Heh, anyone who plays paintball regularly or has posted in the glitch pictures thread will back me up when I say There is still a beta no matter what There Inc says.

.....although now that I think about it, releasing beta products and charging for updates works well enough for Microsoft.....

Galilee

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Sep. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 5:18 pm

I wonder what the criteria for participating is. After all my complaining in the forums, it would be nice to do this. Congrats to everyone that does get picked. That should be lots of fun.

SilverFox

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July 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 5:22 pm

wee .. I got one ..

'happydance

... but I being poor, have only my dreams. I have spread my dreams under your feet. Tread softly, becuase you tread on my dreams.

Twist

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Aug. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 5:25 pm

I think only people that spend over 3 hours on There a day....Probably why I was invited :P

"I think he is a thug, and a brat and he has odd hair." -EvanK

honeybunny

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July 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 5:25 pm

congrats Silver! :inlove:

Opinions are like arseholes we have all got em and they are all differnet!

ScottyIV

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May 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 5:41 pm

I got it too.

Chagall

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Oct. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 5:45 pm

So, y'all have to promise to keep us posted with all the stuff you're testing!

http://www.pinkbunnyslippers.net

Hush

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April 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 5:46 pm

no can do :P You have to agree to stick to a non-disclosure thingy

MissyZ

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Aug. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 5:53 pm

woo! I got one!

honeybunny

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July 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 5:54 pm

Sorry,
We have to sign a non-diclosure form! Opinions are like arseholes we have all got em and they are all differnet!

Vanno

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July 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 6:01 pm

w00t see you all in beta.....again http://vanno.thereinperson.com

If I was to suffer, let it continue. One day a blessing will come.

Cameron_Marie

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Mar. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 6:15 pm

Ok Now I'm all sad

... I've been in There since early February and spend about 3 - 5 hours in game a night (if not more). And no invite *sigh*

They no likie me lol

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BOINCer

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Aug. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 7:22 pm

Quote (Cameron_Marie @ Dec. 04 2003, 5:15 pm)

Ok Now I'm all sad

... I've been in There since early February and spend about 3 - 5 hours in game a night (if not more). And no invite *sigh*

They no likie me lol

I got it, so I'm sure you will! Probably just slow delivery.

BOINCer, but you may call me Bo

Elliott_Beazley

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Sep. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 8:08 pm

Yes, I am interested in how they select, as well. I do not have an invite in my Inbox currently, but then again it could be slow-delivery, like Boincer said.

And in this New Beta, is it a totally different game. Like new avatar, different places to log in..etc.?

This reminds me a lot of Test Center. But, since I was in Jolly Pines, I never knew anybody in Test Center. I hope they aren't trying to split us up!

Miah

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Aug. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 8:11 pm

Got mine!!!

ScottyIV

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May 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 8:31 pm

Quote (Elliott_Beazley @ Dec. 04 2003, 5:08 pm)

I really dont think they will try and split us up. My understanding of that letter is that the beta server will have VERY limited hours.

It will probably be the same game, but more than likely we will get new avatars. And Im sure we will be testing the new locations and goodies that will later be imported to the main server. This is pretty exciting! It MAY just draw me back to There again. But we'll see

Rick_Slick

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Sep. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 8:33 pm

I just hope it doesn't split us up.

I'd hate to see half my friends get invited to head over there and then we never see them hardly ever in our world.

(

So hopefully it's new avatars and very limited playing time, just for the sake of keeping us all one big family

But congrats to those who were selected!! :holdme:

Rick Slick
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"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." - John Wayne

animalcrossing52

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Mar. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 10:37 pm

didn't get one

You are an Intrepid-class Scout, Starfleet's frontline sentry. You're a bit of an enigma. Your grace and intelligence may go unnoticed, but people rely on you for your insight and ability.

Avatar name in There: Henry_Wu

C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit.

Sean_Anthony

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Sep. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 10:41 pm

I didn't get one either

congrats you lucky bumb who did lol

animalcrossing52

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Mar. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 10:47 pm

yeah... congrats, lucky peoples.. You are an Intrepid-class Scout, Starfleet's frontline sentry. You're a bit of an enigma. Your grace and intelligence may go unnoticed, but people rely on you for your insight and ability.

Avatar name in There: Henry_Wu

C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit.

Elliott_Beazley

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Sep. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 10:49 pm

I was on the phone with a Helper this evening regarding some problems with logging in. I asked her about the New Beta, and she said it's not really a "beta". It's going to be a one-by-one feature introduction, in which only selected avatars will participate in. The hours will be limited, but basically you go in, try the feature out, and give your feedback. Something like that is what I infered. The features are ones that will be included in the next release in early 2004--they have already tested it "in-house" but as she said it, the reason they wanted to have members try it out is because "they tend to break things."

I also asked her about the criterions for being selected and she said that is many things that they base it on, such as how long you have been a member, the time you spend in-world, whether you have been moderated or not, skills, and if you are a contributing part of the community.

I didn't get one. 'doh

animalcrossing52

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Mar. 2003

Dec. 04 2003, 11:04 pm

ok, i don't need to keep checking my mail, then

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oh well. You are an Intrepid-class Scout, Starfleet's frontline sentry. You're a bit of an enigma. Your grace and intelligence may go unnoticed, but people rely on you for your insight and ability.

Avatar name in There: Henry_Wu

C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit.

Cameron_Marie

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Mar. 2003

Dec. 05 2003, 12:09 am

Quote (Elliott_Beazley @ Dec. 04 2003, 10:49 pm)

... they base it on, such as how long you have been a member, the time you spend in-world, whether you have been moderated or not, skills, and if you are a contributing part of the community...

*sigh* ok I have all of the above but wth ?!?!? LOL. Renowned in some skills, Expert in most... and been a member since early February and STILL no invite. Friend of mine got invited today though. Started after I did but has WAY more skills but hasn't really contributed to There as much... I don't get it.

Oh well... They no likie me ROFL :glare:

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Karille

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Dec. 05 2003, 1:28 am

Member Since Feb 15. Did not recieve invite so....
Sent THERE email saying I dont understand the way they are choosing testers...

Karille,

Only a small percentage of There's current population was chosen to participate in this first phase of the beta staging ground. You should not feel singled out for not being chosen, and this is not the only time we will be selecting some of our members to help us beta test upcoming versions of the client and server software.

We invited people that were paid members, who were over 18, and who had characteristics that would in different ways be more likely to tax the system and uncover unusual bugs.

-We used the following criteria, and those selected must:
* Be part of a member program, either lifetime or charter
* Have a clean Moderation history
* Be an active member in the last 60 days
* Be representative of our existing demographic (age, gender, connection speed)
* Possess one or several of these attributes:
Large Inventory
Beta tester from early Beta (old user data)
Funzone or Frontierzone Operator
House Owner
Event Host
Club Owner
Developer
Prolific Tester from Earlier Betas (someone that sent us a lot of great bug reports)

As said before, this is not the only time we will be selecting members to from the current population to help with testing future versions of There, this is only the first phase. We intend to have an open application to the Beta program in the future, though of course not everyone will be accepted.

If you really feel you can be a great tester and a benefit to the beta test program, please send an email request to BetaSupport@there.com so that you can be considered for one of the other upcoming beta phases.

See you There!

There Customer Service
help@there.com
866-4U-THERE
(866-488-4373)

BAH! :flipoff:

Blaster

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June 2003

Dec. 05 2003, 1:35 am

Quote (Karille @ Dec. 05 2003, 1:28 am)

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Well, I'm even more confused about why I was picked now. I'm none of those things. I've barely been on There as I've been behind an oppressive firewall for the last few months. (DOWN WITH THE FIREWALL NAZIS!) I think maybe they wanted a range of users, not just avid, addicted socialites.

Parker

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Sep. 2003

Dec. 05 2003, 7:18 am

I got an invite..but I'm not a home owner, I don't host events, I'm not a developer..but I have a TON of stuff in my inventory, I'm a memeber, I'm in world almost ALL the time. I'm not sure how I was pick but I'm glad I was!!

athena_m

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July 2003

Dec. 05 2003, 7:27 am

Woot! got my invite. :bounce:

while i qualify on a couple points, i think what really got me into the test is my inventory... OMG i love to shop and collect.. LOL

Can't wait to get started

When life hands you lemons, stick them in your bra---it couldn't hurt, it might help!

BOINCer

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Aug. 2003

Dec. 05 2003, 8:02 am

Here is an example of a good friend who has been a member since Oct 8, 2003, who also got the invite. These are her skills:

Leadership Experience
...Avid Event Host
...Avid Newbie Helper
Social & Creative Experience
...Casual Fashionista
...Expert Socializer
...Avid Dog Handler
Sports Experience & Ratings
...Casual Board Rider not yet rated
...Casual Buggy Driver 1184.677
...Casual Bike Rider 1146.316

As you can see she only has one Expert skill, but she spends a LOT of time in-world and uses the keyboard to chat.

I don't know what There is looking for in the new Beta testers, but it appears that they want active Avies who spend a good deal of time online. BOINCer, but you may call me Bo

Operation_Ivy

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July 2003

Dec. 05 2003, 8:29 am

I got the invite, I dunno what my skills are exactly but feel free to check them, I have a few experts, no renowned or legendary. I meet some of those criteria at the bottom (which is does say one or several so I do meet those. I rarely use the keyboard to chat. I think they probably chose people exactly as they said they did. If everyone was chosen to test it there would be no point in putting it into test. Just throw it at us in world and say we are testing it. I'm sure you won't be losing any friends. They will probably go try the new stuff and head back to There possibly we will even meet some people we don't usually play with in There and hook up with them in game, expanding your normal circle of friends. Don't be sad guys. I'm sure next time you will be the ones bouncing up and down going w00t new stuff!! and we will be goin wtf, I didn't get one?!?!?!?

I look forward to seeing new people in the beta and meeting the rest of you through mutual friends

Carpenter

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Sep. 2003

Dec. 05 2003, 8:41 am

Yeah, from what I read when I filled out the app, it won't be a full time server, they'll be doing limited 3 hour or so playtests. So no, it won't be like we're leaving the regular server and not coming back, we'll just be off for a few hours and then we'll come back and of course not be able to tell anyone anything. It is really more of a job than a benefit.

andypoole

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May 2003

Dec. 05 2003, 9:46 am

Quote (Karille @ Dec. 05 2003, 1:28 am)

-We used the following criteria, and those selected must:
[...]* Possess one or several of these attributes:
Large Inventory
Beta tester from early Beta (old user data)
Funzone or Frontierzone Operator
House Owner
Event Host
Club Owner
Developer
Prolific Tester from Earlier Betas (someone that sent us a lot of great bug reports)

I was invited, but I don't have a large inventory, I joined in may, which I wouldn't consider early beta, I've never owned/operated a fz, froz, house, or clubhouse. I've only hosted one event ever, I've never started any clubs, or submitted any items, and I've only sent in three bug reports total. (although they were bugs that I had to work with helpers and QA people on.) So I dont know how I was picked to be invited.

evankirk

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April 2003

Dec. 05 2003, 9:52 am

I still believe it is totally random, no matter what they say. I know of a newbie that just started in November. Has virtually nothing in inventory, never even been inSIDE a house, much less owns one. Is virtually broke, has 1 buggy.. nothing else, and his skills are still so low he doesnt even have any bars yet.. but he was chosen.

Its random. Ill bet some computer in There is running a RNG or something.. barfs up a name, and the invite goes out.

Thats what I believe anyway. How else could a 3 week old newbie get selected? There 4 All - Community Journal
http://there4all.thereinperson.com

"Old bagel hating, cranky southern old codger" - Lordpenquin
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Ara

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April 2003

Dec. 05 2003, 10:16 am

I know i got picked HAHAH...

isnt it obvious?!?!!? Im Sexy and cool! ROFLMAO!!

Just kiddin!!

I guess some of us are qualified heehee cause we deserved after all the money and time we spent!

AYE AYE more WORK!!! More money too! LOL MUAHAHAHA!

Ara

Cheerleaders Kick Ass!!

The_White_Light

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Mar. 2003

Dec. 05 2003, 2:21 pm

I bet they pick some people specifically and leave others to lottery. There Catalog

Art

Elliott_Beazley

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Sep. 2003

Dec. 05 2003, 5:29 pm

Quote (Karille @ Dec. 05 2003, 1:28 am)

We invited people that were paid members, who were over 18

'DOH

Sumox

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April 2003

Dec. 05 2003, 5:38 pm

Sumox

Ariadne

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Feb. 2003

Dec. 06 2003, 1:12 am

I didn't get in

wonder if it is US only? cos I've been here since February and spend lots of hours a week in there. "Cake or Death?" ~ Eddie Izzard

Come join my There yahoo group! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ThereMeetingPlace

MissyZ

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Aug. 2003

Dec. 06 2003, 7:36 am

it's not US only coz I know that DoubleD and myself both got invites...

c5studio

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July 2003

Dec. 06 2003, 7:40 am

just a thought but do you think it has anything to do with hardware requirements? c5studio

animalcrossing52

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Mar. 2003

Dec. 06 2003, 1:50 pm

ok, the criteria is wierd...

they trying to get all the rich thereians, or something? (no offense, but seriously!

tempest

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Mar. 2003

Dec. 06 2003, 11:02 pm

Nope, Plenty of the rich (or merely well off like myself :blush:

) didn't get invites.

My guess is
A) they only want a limited number of people.
B) They have an even shorter list of people they wanted based on past bug reports (or rants )
C) Filled the rest by lottery based on demographic fit, time on. ....

Carpenter

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Sep. 2003

Dec. 07 2003, 1:38 am

Quote (c5studio @ Dec. 06 2003, 7:40 am)

just a thought but do you think it has anything to do with hardware requirements?

I doubt that, I'm running on an 1100Mhz Duron system with a 64MB PCI video card and integrated sound. Unless they're shooting for the low end of hardware requirements.

Shmoo

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July 2003

Dec. 07 2003, 3:42 am

Well I've got an 866 PIII with only 3hundredsomething Mb of RAM...and I have frequent crashing problems...but I also have a GeForce 4 with 128 RAM. I think they must be trying to test the limits with me hehe

Bill_Brighthouse

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Nov. 2003

Dec. 07 2003, 5:07 am

I am kinda upset with there way of slecting and the wording..If you ask me makes for bad thinking when someone who has only been in the game 10 days gets a invite to this. I have found 3 ppl whom have been in the game less then a month. This is confusing to me...but then again doe snot suprise me I guess in there thinking.

:dunno:

****DRAMA RUN*****

Operation_Ivy

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July 2003

Dec. 07 2003, 10:32 am

Aww guys, they can't take everyone or else what would be the point? It's just testing stuff and they wanted a broad range of people to test. If everyone had highest system requirements then how would they know if someone with low requirements would have problems. Different skill levels might have trouble using certain things or whatnot. I'm sure it wasn't meant to alienate anyone and I know this means very little coming from me since I was invited but I'm sure soon you will be asked to test something and the ones of us that tested this time won't be in. Don't take it so personally.

Blaster

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June 2003

Dec. 07 2003, 4:51 pm

I don't believe they are excluding any group of people. This is a random selection to get a wide range of people. They have people who have been in since january and have so many items they caused the wardrobe organizer to be rewritten. They also have newbs, avs with data from only the most recent release and not too many possesions. They also have me who's been in since june, has a frugal number of items and no bank account.:)

Also, there are relatively few people in this. Getting sour about this is like getting sour at the state lottery for not picking YOU, not even ONCE.

glissy

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Aug. 2003

Dec. 20 2003, 2:02 pm

i think i got invited since i make clothes. i guess i could get interested in There again with something new to do. at first, i thought the There beta bit was in error, but i did the whole zoomerang thing in hopes of free cash. but i guess it is a legitimate new beta. so. hooray! betas are my lifeblood :3 -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
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Ava

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Aug. 2003

Dec. 21 2003, 12:18 am

YAY! I GOT ONE, TOO!

I'm special! "....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

Ava

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Aug. 2003

Dec. 21 2003, 12:19 am

Quote (Elliott_Beazley @ Dec. 05 2003, 5:29 pm)

Quote (Karille @ Dec. 05 2003, 1:28 am)

We invited people that were paid members, who were over 18

'DOH

Oh darn, Elliott..... :flipoff:

"....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

Elliott_Beazley

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Sep. 2003

Dec. 21 2003, 10:21 am

ava why must you start again :rolleyes:

Crisis

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April 2003

Dec. 21 2003, 4:53 pm

Has anyone heard back from There after the initial survey?

Just wonderin'

Ava

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Aug. 2003

Dec. 21 2003, 5:31 pm

Not starting, Elliott, just adding. I have rights, too, you know.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

Ava

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Aug. 2003

Dec. 21 2003, 5:33 pm

It just dawned on me why There requires the new betas to be eighteen: could they be testing an ADULT island? I guess I'll find out in due time.

I wish I could keep you posted, but we can't discuss it.

SHHHHHHHHH...... "....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

Bill_Brighthouse

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Nov. 2003

Dec. 22 2003, 10:17 am

AGAIN I have seen reply from THERE to people asking baout how they determine who....Funny thing is how does someone that just became a annual member get invited..whom does not own a house or fun zone let alone a frontier zone.
How can they have a large inventory and so on ....I am thinking it sounds good but in fact is not being followed since one person that I will not name does not own only logs like 1-2 hours about every weekend , another I also know is using Dial up service....so time in game and length played ownership ETC. must not carry much weight....Go figure. :bs:

****DRAMA RUN*****

andypoole

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May 2003

Dec. 22 2003, 10:31 am

Maybe they are trying to get a wide range of people, not only old members, or people with super-fast computers and internet connections. The production world will have both old and new members, so why shouldnt they beta test with old and new members?

Elliott_Beazley

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Sep. 2003

Dec. 22 2003, 11:20 am

I think they also selected avatars who have had computer problems running There and have talked with a Helper about it. They do this so they see how their computers will react with the new testing.

SilverFox

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July 2003

Dec. 22 2003, 4:08 pm

Quote (Ava @ Dec. 21 2003, 2:33 pm)

possibly, but I honestly doubt it - at least at start up.

I think its more because of the NDA that we are forced to agree to to participate in the program - its a legally binding 'contract', so, in that respect I believe its required by law that participants be 18 or over. Simply because its a legally binding agreement.

... but I being poor, have only my dreams. I have spread my dreams under your feet. Tread softly, becuase you tread on my dreams.

SilverFox

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July 2003

Dec. 22 2003, 4:12 pm

There_Community already said that specific avatars were selected to participate. That they did not just pick a bunch of random people.

However its not the sense that you guys may be thinking of. There not selecting specific names rather - specific variables. Such as - someone who has an extremely large inventory. Someone who has a specific hardware/connection configuration. Someone whos able to log in at certain times ... all kinds of variables.

So, while I do believe they are targeting certain variables and is certainly not random in anyway - I honestly dont think they're even paying any attention to the names at all. Just what the people behind the names can offer (and I dont mean in suggestions/comments).

... but I being poor, have only my dreams. I have spread my dreams under your feet. Tread softly, becuase you tread on my dreams.

Davidson

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Feb. 2003

Dec. 22 2003, 5:09 pm

im just wondering as a few of my friends got accepted and that was because they hosted a lot (at least one of them did) ive been in beta since july some time i forget the exact date and love the game, im addicted to it and cant get enough of it. im happy to hear they are adding new features to the game as i know it is going to make it much more better than it is right now im just hoping that they fix some of the things that arnt working correctly right now.
another thing id like to know is , are they still sending out invites because i sure as heck would like to test out some of these new features, i loved beta testing for there before it was released and i sure would love to beta test these new features to see what cool stuff is comming up for there

oh well i guess i will just have to wait and see within time as i didnt get an email and maybe in the near future if they decided to ever do some beta testing again i might get accepted for that

im hoping for new vehicles that would be nice to get some more cars or something along that line and i am also excited that maybe they will make new features like maybe seasons or something. now that would be super especially autumn would be the best. but we will have to wait and see whats comming up next as i know i am excited to see whats in store for the next update for there!

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Dec. 23 2003, 8:09 am

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However its not the sense that you guys may be thinking of. There not selecting specific names rather - specific variables. Such as - someone who has an extremely large inventory. Someone who has a specific hardware/connection configuration. Someone whos able to log in at certain times ... all kinds of variables.

So, while I do believe they are targeting certain variables and is certainly not random in anyway - I honestly dont think they're even paying any attention to the names at all. Just what the people behind the names can offer (and I dont mean in suggestions/comments).

That brings up an interesting point...

What if *some* of us got a new computer for Christmas, or recently?

How do they pick people based on variables like the hardware check we all did at signup when we could or do have something completely different now?

Just a thought.... Issues are everywhere, and everyone has issues.
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Dec. 23 2003, 11:12 am

Elliott, dear, if you're going to attempt to use correct grammar and big words, please make sure they're used properly, or you look like a dumb kid who didn't quite grasp the idea of a thesaurus. "....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

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Dec. 23 2003, 11:51 am

Quote (Ava @ Dec. 23 2003, 11:12 am)

Elliott, dear, if you're going to attempt to use correct grammar and big words, please make sure they're used properly, or you look like a dumb kid who didn't quite grasp the idea of a thesaurus.

You need to be clearer with what you are trying to point out..

And I still don't understand why you continue to attempt to point out any flaws that I may or may not have..

someONE can't let go

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Dec. 23 2003, 1:24 pm

Ok first this thing with Ava and Elliott.......quite entertaining.......

Second: I got an invite.........I have never hosted anyting or own a house.....but i do own a paz.....

I also dont understand why ppl are soo upset that they didnt get choosen......its a game and there will be other opportunities im sure..... :rasberry:

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Dec. 23 2003, 1:39 pm

Quote (Elliott_Beazley @ Dec. 23 2003, 11:51 am)

Quote (Ava @ Dec. 23 2003, 11:12 am)

Elliott, dear, if you're going to attempt to use correct grammar and big words, please make sure they're used properly, or you look like a dumb kid who didn't quite grasp the idea of a thesaurus.

You need to be clearer with what you are trying to point out..

And I still don't understand why you continue to attempt to point out any flaws that I may or may not have..

someONE can't let go

Well, Elliott, you got me on this one. For some reason the post seems to be gone or I responded in the incorrect thread.

Weird. I'll find it, yes, I will!

Oh, and before I forget, I point out egregious grammatical errors in others' posts. It's not just you. I'm more over our little squabble than you give me credit. "....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

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Dec. 23 2003, 1:50 pm

Quote (Elliott_Beazley @ Dec. 04 2003, 10:49 pm)

Here it is! Apparently, when I quoted, it didn't appear in my post.

"....in which only selected avatars will participate in."

Leave off the last "in".

"Something like that is what I infered."

You were inferring nothing. The There Helper was, and she was more than inferring: she was bald-faced giving you an explanation. To infer means to hint or imply. "Inferred" has two "Rs", anyway.

"I also asked her about the criterions"

"Criterion" is a single "criteria". There is no such word as "criterions".

Just trying to assist those who are English-impaired, and I only do so when it is absolutely necessary. I'm sure your English instructor will be pleased when you use all my corrections above. Consider it free proofreading.

Cheers and Merry Christmas!

:respect:

FOR OUR LANGUAGE, PLEASE! "....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

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Dec. 23 2003, 2:39 pm

This is not a formal piece of literature. He conveyed his points and if you didn't understand what he meant then perhaps you could benefit from comprehension classes. Yes, he had grammatical and spelling errors but so what? By the way, feel free to pick my posts apart. They will keep you very busy.

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Dec. 23 2003, 3:15 pm

Ivy, out of context this seems to be a "comprehension" issue, but I assure you, it's not. "....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

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Dec. 23 2003, 4:06 pm

The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language:

1.
cri·te·ri·on (kr-tîr-n)
n. pl. cri·te·ri·a (-tîr-) or cri·te·ri·ons
A standard, rule, or test on which a judgment or decision can be based.

2.
in·fer ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-fûr)
v. in·ferred, in·fer·ring, in·fers
v. tr.
To conclude from evidence or premises.
To reason from circumstance; surmise: We can infer that his motive in publishing the diary was less than honorable.
To lead to as a consequence or conclusion: “Socrates argued that a statue inferred the existence of a sculptor” (Academy).
To hint; imply.

The Helper was hesitant on giving me information on the new program because I did not receive an invite. So, basically, I concluded things from the little information she had given me, which is a valid form of the verb "to infer."

The only mistake I made was putting a preposition at the end of a sentence. So, I guess since that's soooo bad, it is "absolutely nessacary" for you to point it out.

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Dec. 23 2003, 6:49 pm

Quote (Elliott_Beazley @ Dec. 23 2003, 4:06 pm)

Well, Elliott, I have never known anyone to use the word "criterions" except otherwise know-it-all teenage boys. However, I do have to point out that just because it's in the dictionary, doesn't mean it's correct: it may mean it has become "acceptable".

Your use of "infer" is still incorrect, regardless, using it the way you did in your post. It made no sense whatsoever.

I'm sick of "I know everything" teenage kids. You, among them. However, it doesn't look as though your ilk will be endagered in the near future, so I suppose I'd better just become sloppy and an irrational speaker/writer, so I may fit in with the masses.

No, I think I'll stay right where I am and continue "tsk-tsking" those who have no regard for the language. "....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

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Dec. 23 2003, 7:09 pm

Quote (Ava @ Dec. 23 2003, 6:49 pm)

I'm sick of "I know everything" teenage kids.

Speak for yourself. I am not the one going around correcting all of the posts in a game forum as if I know everything.

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I guess you get to decide whether or not word usage is correct.

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And you being sick of "know-it-all teenagers" is your own fault. You provoked it by trying to act like YOU know it all.

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Dec. 23 2003, 7:20 pm

Ava and Ell- I for one think that all this back and forth BS is quite sad. Agree to disagree, or move this crap out of everyone elses threads.

You are right Ell, age isn't anything but a number. But with all the throat cutting in all of these threads, I see two childish people that can't seem to stop the BS. El you know I love you (although I do not know Ava) this is nothing personal. Just start your own thread..

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I. cant,' speel or due gramer, veri well. so pik this thrid to shyt if u want two. ROFL www.radiothere.net

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Dec. 23 2003, 10:38 pm

Woot: I don't need to pik your thrid to shyt. I know you're joking. And yes, Elliott, being sick of "know-it-all" teenagers it IS my problem, you are correct. Did I once say it's anyone else's? I don't get to decide if word usage is correct or not, I merely said that just because it's in the dictionary doesn't mean it's correct, per se. The word "ain't" is in the dictionary. That doesn't make it proper. It makes it acceptable by the masses which does not necessarily mean it's correct. "....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

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Dec. 24 2003, 3:03 am

WHY DON'T YOU TWO MAKE A NEW THREAD AND CHAT THERE...........THIS IS GETTING OLD :flipoff:

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Dec. 24 2003, 7:05 am

Wow....such hostility. "....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

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Dec. 26 2003, 6:47 am

Love ya both, just take it to PMs or another thread please!

:inlove:

But aside from that off topic note...

Still wondering how they say meet specific critera when some of us do have different settings and changes now. Even within a month someone's entire inventory, non-property owner status, and other things have and can change.

Thoughts? Issues are everywhere, and everyone has issues.
There is no escape!

People like you are the reason people like me need medication.

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Dec. 26 2003, 10:35 am

Make love not war! Oh wait, with that age gap that would be illegal in 48 States...
:shocked:

...just call me Number 2

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Dec. 26 2003, 12:29 pm

picking on people's grammar in discussion forums is LAME. "I'll take your best shot."

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Dec. 26 2003, 2:52 pm

Ahh so back to the main topic...roflmao!...Seems as though the new beta will start after the new year...'''yay I for one am VERY excited, although my other half was not invited to the beta '''drat. luckily its not suppose to be an everyday thing:) Opinions are like arseholes we have all got em and they are all differnet!

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Dec. 26 2003, 4:16 pm

Quote (Ava @ Dec. 23 2003, 10:38 pm)

Psssttt Elliott!!! I Think She likes you!!! :shocked:

"I think he is a thug, and a brat and he has odd hair." -EvanK

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Dec. 28 2003, 7:39 am

No invite for me . . .

and I find myself not caring.

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Dec. 30 2003, 4:56 am

I know i'm being a baby, but i'm sorta sad I didn't get invited to this? How were the beta testers chosen, does anyone know?

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Dec. 30 2003, 10:16 am

Ain't is included in the dictionary. As a matter of fact, it is searched for more than any other word. Ain't that funny? :rofl:

From Websters

One entry found for ain't.

Main Entry: ain't
Pronunciation: 'Ant
Etymology: contraction of are not
Date: 1778
1 : am not : are not : is not
2 : have not : has not
3 : do not : does not : did not -- used in some varieties of Black English
usage Although widely disapproved as nonstandard and more common in the habitual speech of the less educated, ain't in senses 1 and 2 is flourishing in American English. It is used in both speech and writing to catch attention and to gain emphasis . It is used especially in journalistic prose as part of a consistently informal style . This informal ain't is commonly distinguished from habitual ain't by its frequent occurrence in fixed constructions and phrases . In fiction ain't is used for purposes of characterization; in familiar correspondence it tends to be the mark of a warm personal friendship. It is also used for metrical reasons in popular songs . Our evidence shows British use to be much the same as American.

I got the Beta invite as well. I think that there were like 20 different factors. I have worked quite a bit with There on the pball bugs (not that they have fixed them ) Also, I have somewhat high skill, was a funzone op, home owner. original beta tester, and have a a sh^tload of inventory. (IE I spent to much money in game)

Let us not forget about how cool I am either....

Heather_Nicole www.radiothere.net

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Dec. 30 2003, 12:12 pm

Woot, if you reread my post, you will find I never said "ain't" isn't in the dictionary. I said it IS in the dictionary, but being in the dictionary doesn't make the word acceptable or proper. You might want to also reread where it says in YOUR post, "Although widely disapproved......"

I have made my point.

Thank you and good night. "....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

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Dec. 30 2003, 12:55 pm

i request this thread be locked "I'll take your best shot."

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Dec. 30 2003, 1:02 pm

Quote (_Jackson @ Dec. 30 2003, 9:55 am)

i request this thread be locked

see the "Report this post to a moderator" button?

yea, click that

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Dec. 30 2003, 1:08 pm

Please, PLEASE, report the post. "....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

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Dec. 30 2003, 10:54 pm

Quote (Ava @ Dec. 30 2003, 12:12 pm)

I know exactly what you said. I can read, thanks. I was surprised that it WAS, and was commenting on your post. I am not sure what your problem is, but I have no intention of engaging in the little game you play here. So whatever point you thought that you made - wasn't. www.radiothere.net

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Jan. 01 2004, 10:41 am

Well to add to the other members comments AVA everyone is entitled to opinions yes but in this case it is not a opinion your being judgmental on someone for spelling and grammer in which you have no right to be correcting him on. I myself am not happy to have to try reading this thread and scan over pages of comments left back and forth over things that have NOTHING to do with the thread at all. Like others have said it is just a forum and if your so grammer and spelling ANAL :shocked:

....maybe you should not be reading things like this as your way to smart for us people whom could not care less if we make a spelling error or say AIN'T...... :wtf:

If you are as smart as you implie then you would not be motivated to go on and on about something and move on....anyway....just my thought in the matter since the comments took over 2 pages of this thread up...and wasted my time. My god let it gooooooooo!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR... :iconlol:

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