evankirk
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ok, I voted. I think an adults only area would be great, but I wouldnt be willing to pay for it. There nickels and dimes us to death already as it is. I refuse to *pay* for anything else right now. I do agree with the idea though. There 4 All - Community Journal
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Duchess
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I'm agreeing with Evan. *gasp*
Besides... they would then feel it would be ok to charge for a future Kids Area...
Also curious.. Adult as in ADULT ADULT.. or age restictive? LOL A naive girl can be infatuated with a knight,
but only a woman can love the man inside the armor.
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Oz11
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I agree with evan, besides they already said they're "working" on it.
I think the adult area should be anything goes, nudity, cursing, out right sex on a chair, why not? No one under 18 should be there anyway, and most of that goes on now.  "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
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Daemona
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Adult as in noone under 18 allowed.
Foul language permitted but no personal attacks (like you could say omfg spelled out but not you f-ing f-ing f!
sexual innuendos permitted
bascailly get rid of the censorship we have now.
and topless ladies tops. I so want pierced nips in There. Sin like you mean it!
"I love the life but I never sold my soul" {Kid Rock}
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evankirk
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I dont really know that much about controlling memberships, but I wonder how There could assure everyone was of age? Credit cards are no longer reliable age indicators. Hell, my newphew Dylan has a pre paid credit card my brother got for him to use in gaming. It looks, acts and for all purposes, IS a real credit card, just has to be recharged.
Im just wondering how There would police this. There 4 All - Community Journal
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Lexiwexy
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hmmm...I have to agree with Evan on the fist post as well.
I also said pretty much the smake thing in Evan's second post..LOL. Now days over the internet, there just isnt many ways to PROVE someone is an adult.
Lexi  I'm listening I swear!
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Oz11
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My idea for an adult island was to only allow people in based on association, such as, I know this person who I know is over 18 and they know this person who they know is over 18, does anyone know this person is over 18? No, well then you can't get in. But that doesn't always work. They just can't care that much, legaly all they have to do is check for credit cards, then if someone else comes and says "hey my 14 year old was on your adult island and saw someone say a bad word" there can say "Hey we checked for credit card/driver licens/id, its not our fault". "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
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evankirk
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Yeah, I mean.. Daniel has to sign Dylan up for the services he uses, and we dont let him actually hold on to his credit card, its just his allowance. He can make it stretch the whole month, or use it all in one day. That isnt to say though, that some kids couldnt use those things to sign up for services on their own. Kids are sooo not dumb. I just see this as being a real challenge for There to control. There 4 All - Community Journal
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Daemona
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thigh high hooker boots
stilletto heels
BEER out of vending machines
Cigarettes
gambling (slots? black jack?)
you get teh idea
I want vegas...and I want a martini Sin like you mean it!
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evankirk
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Too bad that There isnt like Palace was. Where users could "make their own Palace", then choose to allow in who they wanted. That wouldnt work in There of course, but each Palace established its own rules, and the operators were responsible for their own Palace, not the people who owned the software. There 4 All - Community Journal
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Oz11
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The problem will be if they TRY to control it, if its an adult area, shouldn't adults be adult enough to control it on their own?
I think they should check for id, then thats it, everything else is up for grabs, There feels too restricted as it is, if they restricted an adult area too, no one would care to go cuse it'd just be like everyother place but you could say the f word, which you can do anyway, just on the adult island you wouldn't have to worry about who you do it around. And most likely thats all the adult island will be, heh. Adult only items would be hard too, they would still have an approval process because of copyrighted material, and i highly doubt they would allow adult objects, er... blunt objects, get what I mean? An Adult Area in There is kind of an oxymoron.
And i like that idea too evan, houses are kind of like that, or atleast they should be, technicly it depends on who you let in that depends on wether you'll have problems or not. "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
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Sumox
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Well this is a idea.....that would take a long time, and might leave some out.....
But the only way you could by allowed in is if you send there a voice clip of you saying something that there tells you to say, and if you have a adult voice your in, but still its not fool proof but it is just a idea still brewing in my little head, lol.
Now for all of you that know I am 13, you might be asking why would he be making up ideas for a adult island that he wouldn't be able to even get on, well first off I have to say I here like 10 times worse at school then I here in there.....and I have been into some "deep" convo's in there. And if people want a place were they don't want to hurt the "young ears" then that is just fine with me, besides by the time there gets around do even starting this idea, I will probably be 18 already, ROFL. 
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Daemona
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| Quote (Sumox @ Nov. 08 2003, 7:52 am) | | Now for all of you that know I am 13, you might be asking why would he be making up ideas for a adult island that he wouldn't be able to even get on, well first off I have to say I here like 10 times worse at school then I here in there.....and I have been into some "deep" convo's in there. |
I don't know why you think we don't get just as bad as you do at school. We just do it in IM's. Sin like you mean it!
"I love the life but I never sold my soul" {Kid Rock}
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Melora
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| Quote (Oz11 @ Nov. 08 2003, 12:19 pm) | I agree with evan, besides they already said they're "working" on it.
I think the adult area should be anything goes, nudity, cursing, out right sex on a chair, why not? No one under 18 should be there anyway, and most of that goes on now. |
If you want something like that, I suggest you try seducity.com
It will suit your needs.
And just to make everybody aware, the trial alone reportedly $6.95 so it makes you wonder how much the monthly fee is.
If There eventually builds this adult area, I suspect it will cost ALOT to be in it.
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Oz11
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Well whats the point of having an adult area if the only thing different is freedom of speech which we should have in most places in There anyway? There are ways to do everything I stated already in There, the adult place would just make them easier and "official".
A trial that costs money? Uh... whats the point of that? There's greed is a real turn off, there are better ways to make money than everything they're doing. If the adult area was pay to enter it'd be pretty damn empty, I sure wouldn't pay for it, specialy when places like Second Life have mature area's for free. "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
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Elliott_Beazley
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I have to disagree with some of the preferences you have listed in an "adult area."
Hooker boots? since when do we need to be hookers?
Cigarettes/Beer/other substances - because these substances in real life may "relieve" some people, the effect in There would be nothing, i guess you could look "cool"
gambling - great idea..i like to risk my $$
as a 14 year old, i just want to point out that laws in the U.s. are not the same as laws in the There world...there are people in Europe, Canada..etc.
my vote for an adult area is no...
my parents are fine with me playing this game...they drink, my brother smokes, whats going to be different?
if you dont like how something is, then dont play at all
just my opinion
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Sumox
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| Quote (Daemona @ Nov. 08 2003, 11:59 am) | | I don't know why you think we don't get just as bad as you do at school. We just do it in IM's. |
Yes your right, I was just trying to show that alot of stuff we here in school is what we here in there. And you just get use to it.
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evankirk
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There does have to operate under US laws though Elliott because its US based and its servers are in the US. So even though there are members of There from overseas, There still has to operate according to laws of the United States. There 4 All - Community Journal
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Elliott_Beazley
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I hate it when someone says "under 18 year olds shouldn't be in There anyway"
There is a pg-13--it was listed when you sign up, if you dont like it, dont play
some other preferences:
nudity? if kids want to do that they can search no Google easily
plus i think graphic nudity is less deteriorating to the mind in a sense..its art rofl 
cussing..i do that enough anyway, plus in world there is nothing wrong with that
*sex on a chair* oh lawd rofl.. if you can do that in public in front of your other naked peers, go right ahead..
i usually do not do things in there that i woulnd't do in Real Life
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evankirk
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Personally, I like having young people around. Look at Elliott.. he works for CST, he is great and talented. It would be a loss for us without him. Also, my friend Mike is 16. Im cautious as possible of what I say around them, but I would still hate not to have them. An escape to an option adult land would be nice for those that choose to use it, but I also like it like it is.
EDIT: OMG, I agree with Crystal too though. It would make parents feel safer. Man, this issue is tougher than I thought. There 4 All - Community Journal
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CrystalShard
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I think an adult zone is a nice idea - i'm getting sick and tierd from the multiple restrictions.
But I voted "other": I would like to see a highly moderated G rated zone, which require pay to use. Call it the There Kindergarden - a place where parents can set their 8 year olds loose without worry. Child oriented activities, etc'.
Concidering the type of crowd There is turning to, this sounds like a pretty good idea that will convince moms to pay for subscription for themselves and their children.
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Elliott_Beazley
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thanks evan... ths topic should last for a while... *will keep refreshing every 1 min rofl*
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Rose_E_Vette
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*views graphic of poll choice responces*
ummm... ummmm... maybe I need to stop viewing this topic as that picture of the poll results is planting subliminal messages in my very suggestive brain....
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evankirk
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Well, Dae has a point. She wants a place where she can be adult, in every way, without having to feel like a mommy. I agree. I also would like that on occasion, but I would hate to be seperated totally from ALL of There. I guess thats my final view. Kids need a place to be kids, adults need a place to be adults, but its also nice to be able to mingle too. There are predators in There as everywhere, but if I DID see someone harrassing Elliott, or Mike or anyone else I knew was underage, I would step in. Otherwise, I would leave them to their business.
Am I making ANY sense at all? I have a hangover.  Oops, sorry Elliott. HAH! There 4 All - Community Journal
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Elliott_Beazley
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My number 1 reason for not wanting this zone:
All the adults would flock to it... i can see it now..
where would my friends be? must of my friends are way older than i am...
where can we be together? why cant he/she have what they want, me have what i want, and just be in the same zone?
thats how it is now..and thats how i like it
the bond between old and young avatars is very strong right now, and i think having separate zones would break that bond, and make more havoc..
for example
"hey elliott, whats up"
-------------"nm, u? just biking"
"i am at this killer party"
"want a summon"
------------sure thanks man
"You are not allowed in this zone"
while everyone else is having fun inside...
note: i am not saying that under 18 year olds should be allowed, i am saying then need to have it opened to all, or not opened at all for peace
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Elliott_Beazley
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| Quote (evankirk @ Nov. 08 2003, 12:32 pm) | Well, Dae has a point. She wants a place where she can be adult, in every way, without having to feel like a mommy. I agree. I also would like that on occasion, but I would hate to be seperated totally from ALL of There. I guess thats my final view. Kids need a place to be kids, adults need a place to be adults, but its also nice to be able to mingle too. There are predators in There as everywhere, but if I DID see someone harrassing Elliott, or Mike or anyone else I knew was underage, I would step in. Otherwise, I would leave them to their business.
Am I making ANY sense at all? I have a hangover. Oops, sorry Elliott. HAH! |
Rofl evan
i agree with you on certain things..disagree on others...
If this zone actually happens, if the answer to the kids' problems are having their "own zone" i will not stand for it..
i play this game to get away from real life so all my same-age friends can get a life---some can be really immature
an only "kids zone" would be bad...real bad rofl
www.dictionary.com says:
adult
\A*dult"\, n. A person, animal, or plant grown to full size and strength; one who has reached maturity.
Note: In the common law, the term is applied to a person who has attained full age or legal majority; in the civil law, to males after the age of fourteen, and to females after twelve.
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Sean_Anthony
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I voted wanting it but not paying more for us.
While I like conversing with everyone. There
are times I wish to act 'hmm misbehave even a
little. I sure as heck wouldn't be there all the time.
I love most of the places in there  .
Yes playing playing parent for people who's
parents don't monitor what they do is a pain at times.
yet many young people are very intelligent and add to There
alot.
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evankirk
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Im not saying an either OR zone Elliott, rather an optional available zone. There would still be There, where adults and kids could mingle. Just a place where adults CAN go if they choose, yes.. where you could NOT go, but not just a this There or a that There. Adults do want to escape, but a lot also like being able to mingle with everyone, Im one of those. There 4 All - Community Journal
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Wanted
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not that i pay anything or play the game at this point but i would like to see an adult area but wouldnt pay for it unless there let me open up a strip club n stuff n lemmie be a pimp n wouldgimmie a cowboy hat with a giant purple feather. "I hate every bone in your body except mine." - CC DaVille
"Bread Makes Me Poop!" - Special Ed
Hey Im a n00b to There i am not even in it yet waiting to get in tho, \^/
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Elliott_Beazley
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lets just say this...
i am going to log off in there if i can be summoned by my best friend. 
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