Daemona
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I have heard some of the most repulsive and embarrassing things recently. I have turned my speakers off in utter DISGUST. Plus the fact that my 5 year old son is never more than 5 feet away from me really makes some of the crap that has been coming from people even more intolerable. Do I really want my 5 y/o asking me what the lady is talking about and what the dildo thing is she keeps talking about all the damn time?
Consensual cybering between 2 ppl in a private discreet location is one thing. Walking into Bali Hai where anyone, including teens, can hang out and saying this crap is quite another.
It is time to stand up and say this is not right. You may hate me for posting this, you may think I am trying to stir up trouble. Even if this generates a ton of crap, I only want to make sure that THERE is a safe place for ALL members, including TEENS! I have several teens in my clubs and I would feel that I let them down if they were subjected to some of the stuff we have been hearing lately. There is supposed to be PG-13. That's all I am asking people to keep in mind and follow. Sin like you mean it!
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digital_signal_X
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This is a very difficult problem for two large reasons.
First - There does not have a means of policing TOS violating voice chat outside of the word of other avatars. The only way you could would be to record offensive conversations on your client.
Second - While the TOS states pretty clearly, most people's personal opinion of what constitutes lewd, unsavory, or inappropriate for minors, can vary greatly. So while some might hesitate and remember the TOS before describing in voice what "tossing a salad" means outside of the cooking channel, they might not hesitate to describe the correct application of a condom.
Clearly Thereinc draws the line, and all we can do is try and be receptive to others who request a conversation be curbed if it crosses their own line as well. Being aware of your surroundings and having a sense of propriety is just as important in There as it would be walking around in the real world. 
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Daemona
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Well DSX as you know I am not one to sit idly by and just accept unacceptable behavior. I have contacted There staff and learned that these people CAN have their voice chat privilages suspended or even ended. BUT to go that far, a There staff person has to hear it.
So if you hear something that is OBVIOUSLY not PG-13 IM a helper directly and summon them over to listen in. It is too bad helpers can not "tune in" remotely to a location such as Bali Hai and listen in without their avatar being present.
And no, i do not wish to see anyone kicked out of There or anything like that. I just think it is getting WAY out of hand with a very small percentage of voice chat users. We need to nip it in the bud before it spreads like some skanky venereal disease. Sin like you mean it!
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Allyson
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I don't think it's a good idea for helpers to have the ability to "tune in" remotely.. but I do recognize the problem sexually explicit chat creates.
I think perhaps walking up and reminding these folks that they are in a public place and that children are quite possibly around would/should be enough to make them at least create an invite only "private" event. There is no reason to carry it on publicly. I hope they would be respectful enough to move it along -- and if not, then one could always contact There to see what can be done.
I'm glad you brought this up... hopefully people who are guilty of doing this will think twice before bringing up a graphic topic in mixed company. It's all about personal responsibility. "I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
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Rick_Slick
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 Love ya Dae, but unless your teens are homeschooled, you do know they're most likely subjected to the same potty-mouth language at school by that age, right?
I mean, yeah, being vulgar and swearing or talking about peepees every other word in a public place (which, mind you, is difficult... I've tried and it really just doesn't make any coherent sense and everyone just sort of stands there and looks at you all like WTF???) isn't necessary or responsible, but let's be realistic here.  People come to There to escape their real-life responsibilities and all the rules and the limitations society places on us... so it's bound to happen. I agree that simple reminders or the ignore function should work quite well. Rick Slick
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Kevin_McVeigh
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Daemona, have you ever heard of the ignore function? It's a wonderful thing. If someone is saying something you find offensive, you can turn them off!
I am just so sick of people trying to force everyone to conform to their sense of morality. Tattling to a helper about someone's conversation when you should be the parent and just put them on ignore, really! Next you're going to go down to your local Barnes and Noble and tell them that you can't keep your child from seeing the adult magazine rack, so therefore they must take it down.
NO NO NO. If you don't want you or your child seeing or hearing something, then you don't have to look or listen. There has given you the tools to cut off offensive input. But do not tell other adults what they can or cannot experience.
Are you telling me that if two women were in the department store discussing their latest toys that you would get the store manager and have him listen in on their conversation? Or would you go over to the women and tell them that you didn't want your 5 year old hearing about it? Or would you just walk away?
Using ignore is a mature way to deal with people who are discussing things you find offensive. To try and police their behavior is just just being a control freak. Kevin McVeigh
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Melora
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| Quote (Daemona @ Sep. 30 2003, 8:55 pm) | I have heard some of the most repulsive and embarrassing things recently. I have turned my speakers off in utter DISGUST. Plus the fact that my 5 year old son is never more than 5 feet away from me really makes some of the crap that has been coming from people even more intolerable. Do I really want my 5 y/o asking me what the lady is talking about and what the dildo thing is she keeps talking about all the damn time?
Consensual cybering between 2 ppl in a private discreet location is one thing. Walking into Bali Hai where anyone, including teens, can hang out and saying this crap is quite another.
It is time to stand up and say this is not right. You may hate me for posting this, you may think I am trying to stir up trouble. Even if this generates a ton of crap, I only want to make sure that THERE is a safe place for ALL members, including TEENS! I have several teens in my clubs and I would feel that I let them down if they were subjected to some of the stuff we have been hearing lately. There is supposed to be PG-13. That's all I am asking people to keep in mind and follow. |
I've had a few experiences myself so I understand what you're saying.
Awhile back I did some research, theres an actual adult virtual world site called Seducity and its a place where anything goes.
So now I usally tell the male avatars that have approached me to try that site as it will likely suit their needs as There wasn't designed for the purpose of being only an adult world.
I really believe THERE needs an over 18 island so people can have a venue for adult oriented entertainment because I don't believe they should be banned. WHat people do is their business.
What I wish is people would use common sense and think about how their behavior could affect the younger set.
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Elliott_Beazley
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I think it's best for avatars to verbally or visually express these subjects in There Public Areas as they would in real life in public areas. There really isn't a difference...but then again there are people in Real Life who do that...you can't really tell them to shutup ..just leave. I am a teen myself, i hear these subjects brought up sometimes, i dont really have an opinion, but, I dont think the age of the people is an issue...i think the issue is what you are talking about with people.???
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Lynn Minmei
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Doesn't the There agreement state that you need to be 18 or over to play? If so, then shouldn't you be the one to not let your kids around while you're in There if you think adult stuff is going on? I don't want to get into a big argument or anything but you're pointing the blame finger at There when you're the one that needs to act. Ignore, go somewhere else or tell the kids to go play somewhere else. "Life is only what we choose to make it, let's just take it, let us be free...
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Melora
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| Quote (Kevin_McVeigh @ Sep. 30 2003, 9:53 pm) | Daemona, have you ever heard of the ignore function? It's a wonderful thing. If someone is saying something you find offensive, you can turn them off!
I am just so sick of people trying to force everyone to conform to their sense of morality. Tattling to a helper about someone's conversation when you should be the parent and just put them on ignore, really! Next you're going to go down to your local Barnes and Noble and tell them that you can't keep your child from seeing the adult magazine rack, so therefore they must take it down.
NO NO NO. If you don't want you or your child seeing or hearing something, then you don't have to look or listen. There has given you the tools to cut off offensive input. But do not tell other adults what they can or cannot experience.
Are you telling me that if two women were in the department store discussing their latest toys that you would get the store manager and have him listen in on their conversation? Or would you go over to the women and tell them that you didn't want your 5 year old hearing about it? Or would you just walk away?
Using ignore is a mature way to deal with people who are discussing things you find offensive. To try and police their behavior is just just being a control freak. |
Kevin_McVeigh,
Daemona isn't trying to get anyone to change, she's trying
to get people to have a little common sense and try to remember
that There has ALOT of under 18 players and that they should not be forced to hear that adult behavior.
And From what I understand, placing people on ignore does not affect voice chat.
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Allyson
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| Quote (Kevin_McVeigh @ Sep. 30 2003, 8:53 pm) | Daemona, have you ever heard of the ignore function? It's a wonderful thing. If someone is saying something you find offensive, you can turn them off!
I am just so sick of people trying to force everyone to conform to their sense of morality. Tattling to a helper about someone's conversation when you should be the parent and just put them on ignore, really! Next you're going to go down to your local Barnes and Noble and tell them that you can't keep your child from seeing the adult magazine rack, so therefore they must take it down.
NO NO NO. If you don't want you or your child seeing or hearing something, then you don't have to look or listen. There has given you the tools to cut off offensive input. But do not tell other adults what they can or cannot experience.
Are you telling me that if two women were in the department store discussing their latest toys that you would get the store manager and have him listen in on their conversation? Or would you go over to the women and tell them that you didn't want your 5 year old hearing about it? Or would you just walk away?
Using ignore is a mature way to deal with people who are discussing things you find offensive. To try and police their behavior is just just being a control freak. |
I agree.... to a degree.
There is a PG-13 world. Not R, NC-17, or XXX. It's not pushing ones own morality on someone so much as it is telling someone that, hey, I'd appreciate it if you took it somewhere private. That way they can have their conversation in a place where a child is less likely to hear it. Then you're not telling the adult what they can and cannot experience, but only asking them to please take it out of a public area.
Paging a helper or getting There involved should be only used as a last resort. Ideally, I would hope that most problems can be handled person to person. "I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
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Allyson
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| Quote (Lynn Minmei @ Sep. 30 2003, 9:19 pm) | | Doesn't the There agreement state that you need to be 18 or over to play? If so, then shouldn't you be the one to not let your kids around while you're in There if you think adult stuff is going on? I don't want to get into a big argument or anything but you're pointing the blame finger at There when you're the one that needs to act. Ignore, go somewhere else or tell the kids to go play somewhere else. |
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Daemona
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My original point was there is a time and place for everything, and I have no problems with consenting adults getting their freak on over the internet. But if I am standing in a public area with my speakers turned on so that I can converse with newbies I don't want my 5 year old child to overhear some girl telling people how to use a dildo quite graphically.
I do not let my children play There, they are way too young. But my speakers do bring "There" into our living room. And please do not suggest that I wear headphones. That would completely block out my children :P
Again, I am not trying to tell people what they can and can not say in general, just that they need to take their little freak show somewhere private. Not everyone cares to watch or listen. Sin like you mean it!
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Kevin_McVeigh
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Melora, noone is forcing anyone to hear any adult conversations. Whenever we make rules or laws, they tend to be black and white, with no room for gray. I would rather people be expected to use their ignore feature to filter out what they did not want to hear, rather than have There restrict our freedom of speech.
And ignore does block voice as well as bubble text. I have done it before. You see the little squiggly line, but no sound comes through.
Allyson, do you mean to say that (feign shock) we should be reasonable adults?! Oh bright havens, what an idea! I couldn't agree with you more.
Some people wouldn't be comfortable confronting someone like that, which is why I simply fell back to the ignore ability - but yes, if you want to express to someone that their conversation is inappropriate, that's perfectly fine. Just be prepared for their reaction.
The thing that I was objecting to was bringing in the authority figure to force a behavioral compliance. That is just too akin to living in a police state with big brother monitoring your every activity. Kevin McVeigh
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Rick_Slick
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I don't really want to get all involved in this controversial topic, but I don't feel comfortable being held accountable for someone else's decision to broadcast There to an inappropriate audience. Love you bunches, Daemona... I just feel that the burden is on the parent to shield their children from whatever evils of society they want to protect them from. But I do respect your opinion and I promise I will never talk about dildos in public or private!! *hugs*  Rick Slick
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Kevin_McVeigh
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Daemona, I understand where you're coming from, but whether you use your ignore option or call in a helper, you would have had to hear an inappropriate part of the conversation in the first place, thus exposing your children either way.
There is no way to predict what someone might say and no way to filter out what they say in a public area.
I used to play EverQuest, and it had an obscenity filter. Granted, that game did not support speech, but if you didn't want to read obscenities, the game would filter them out. You could read every word a person said except those that were on the filter list. But even that was not perfect. There were tricks to defeating the filter, using spaces, or other symbols in place of letters, etc. And even with the words blocked out, you could still tell what was being said, though a child might not have. I would imagine it would be near impossible to put a filter on speech.
The only way you could attempt to stop offensive speech would be if There had a no-tolerance policy and any reports of inappropriate language resulted in immediate termination of the account. That would tend to prevent people from adult conversations in public areas, but something might still slip through.
So, before you go calling in the authorities, please... feel free to bring public awareness of this topic - it might make people think twice - but let people know if their conversation is offensive. If they aren't willing to be reasonable, use your ignore. That's what it's there for. Kevin McVeigh
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Nick_Cordone
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Like it was posted above...There is for those 18 or older...13 and older with parents permission. Now personally I'm not gonna run around talking about dildos on voice chat, and if I was I'd do it somewhere private, but like others have said, we don't really want restrictions on our freedom of speech. You could ignore the person or just walk away, you're not forced to listen to it. When the majority of an online worlds users are adults...and There is about 95% adults...the world is going to take on an adult like setting, whether the world provides "adult actions" or not. I know how There is, I know what goes on and I know what gets said...if I had kids I wouldn't want them around the PC when I was logged in or I'd turn off voice chat. It's the parents responsibility to regulate what their children take in, especially when you KNOW about the potential threat. Just my opinion, im strongly set on things like this. I'm tired of everyone trying to censor our games, music, etc.
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Daemona
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Ok I will NOT name names as that is not the point of all of this. But the problem I am having with this is coming from ONE avatar. I have been told she clears out entire events with her obscene mouth, Yet she has not stopped. People have her on ignore, leave when she starts up, and yet she keeps on.
And for those such as myself who DO confront the situation she has nothing but obscenities for us too! The party I got summoned to last night was just one example. She started one of her sexual moaning things up, so I told the host that I was sorry, but I didn't come to a party for that kind of action, and my girls and I were going to leave. (I had not even directed my chat to the person doing the VC) All of a sudden she's calling me a b*tch over VC and blah blah blah. Then my long time friend is screaming NO MORE DRAMA! NO DRAMA IN MY HOUSE! And I am standing there going, ok now I'm a drama queen for explaining to my friend why I am about to leave her place. I didn't want my host to think I didn't like her, so I let her know why I was leaving, which only made it worse.
You say we can ignore her. Done that she doesn't seem to get the hint.
You say we can opt to leave. Event after event has been cleared by this gal and still she keeps it up.
You say we can confront the behavior. Well i did and now I am labled a drama queen because of it.
So it seems the only thing really left is reporting it to There since it has gone on unchecked for weeks. Maybe a week without voice chat is what she needs to appreciate the privilage that a There account is.
And Amyjo this has not a damm thing to do with club politics. This is about providing a fun, comfortable chat environment for everyone in There, especially the thousands of Thereians who have not one thing to do with the M clubs. Sin like you mean it!
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momacita
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OMG you are such a drama queen!! The incident you were referring to wasn't even at the Baili Hai. It was in a friends private home and well just as everybody says there is ignore. So use it and stop the whining.
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Troz
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While I have to agree that some of the things said are VERY disturbing (think about the 13 y/o who just logged in and heard a group talking about VERY explicit sexual acts), I DO NOT like the idea of Helpers having a remote listening ability. 1984 ring any bells? I'm not one of those people who thinks the gov't is constantly spying on them, but I hate the idea of There Staff even having the option of listening to others when on the other side of There. Just my 50 cents...wait, gimme my 50 cent back! I need it to dry my clothes...stoopit college laundry... 
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Kevin_McVeigh
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Daemona, if you've put her on ignore, then you can't hear her anymore, can you? So what's the problem? The problem is you're not gonna be satisfied until this individual conforms to your standard of behavior.
That attitude is exactly what I've been saying is wrong. You can't control her behavior, you can only not let it affect you. And if you start demanding that There begin policing our speech, it's going to turn into a wasteland because noone will be able to say anything for fear of getting reported.
Kudos to you, Nick.  I couldn't have said it better. Kevin McVeigh
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Daemona
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Calling me names does not make your behavior any more appropriate in a PG-13 environment. Why don't you limit your "adult" VC to the adult friends that find it entertaining and leave the rest of us alone?
It isn't about censoring you Moma. It is about providing a safe, welcoming chat environment for all users. I really wish I could have gotten to know you under different circumstances, your friends speak so highly of you! Sin like you mean it!
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Troz
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I have no problem with people talking dirty...heck, I kid around with people sometimes (nothing horrible ya'll...I'm not a ThereWhore LOL), but those conversations should occur in certain spots, like a private house or in a secluded, empty spot...not in the center of Karuna or in a crowded bar. Innocent ears are EVERYWHERE ya'll, and we don't want There to get a bad rep as a place where children are exposed to nasty nasty ideas!
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momacita
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Sep. 30 2003, 10:23 pm |
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Clean the bird crap out of your ears, I have told you and everybody else. I am who I am and I will never change for you or anybody else. And girl you made Bud leave his own house cause you wouldn't drop the drama. So get over yourself and your hang up of me. And also, quit inviting me to your events. I don't want to be in them so don't try.
If you had me on ignore you couldn't have heard me, so quit showing people how much you lie. Gosh have some dignity already.
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Rick_Slick
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| Quote (Daemona @ Sep. 30 2003, 9:11 pm) | | You say we can ignore her. Done that she doesn't seem to get the hint. |
I guess I'm not really clear on this.
If the person in question is being ignored by all who that person offends with that sort of talk, and if ignore really does take care of voice chat as someone above has confirmed, therefore no one who is offended by that sort of language can hear that person, how exactly does that affect anyone who's offended by it at that point?
Again, I really don't want to take sides or anything... but I firmly believe that ignore (again, if it does take care of voicechat) can easily solve problems like this in There without people being forced to censor themselves.
<- all these effeminate little hearts me I still 'hearts you, Daemona, even if I may disagree with you on this, and I hope you still 'hearts me!! Rick Slick
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BOINCer
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| Quote (Nick_Cordone @ Sep. 30 2003, 8:54 pm) | | Like it was posted above...There is for those 18 or older...13 and older with parents permission. Now personally I'm not gonna run around talking about dildos on voice chat, and if I was I'd do it somewhere private, but like others have said, we don't really want restrictions on our freedom of speech. You could ignore the person or just walk away, you're not forced to listen to it. When the majority of an online worlds users are adults...and There is about 95% adults...the world is going to take on an adult like setting, whether the world provides "adult actions" or not. I know how There is, I know what goes on and I know what gets said...if I had kids I wouldn't want them around the PC when I was logged in or I'd turn off voice chat. It's the parents responsibility to regulate what their children take in, especially when you KNOW about the potential threat. Just my opinion, im strongly set on things like this. I'm tired of everyone trying to censor our games, music, etc. |
I agree with Nick! I would never have a child around when I'm in there, unless I was in a buggy or other vehicle that was away from the crowds. I would never go to a private party and let them watch/listen!
Now I see that the complaint is really against one person...so why try to take away everyone's freedom because you have issues with that one person?
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momacita
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Troz hun, it was in a private home. Bud_green's home. He didn't invite her. StunnerBunny did , and he had to leave the house as I did. Cause she was dramatizing the whole place. She ran th owner out of his own home ( a private home) where he invited me before she was ever there.
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momacita
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oh and btw, this person is me she is talking about. Go figure. huh? Its funny how most women have problems with me. lol oh well. and look , I am still myself so get over it.
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Allyson
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lol Moma, I don't know ya, but I doubt I'd have a problem with you.
I just wish the drama could be handled outside of forums... you're both adults, and because of that I think the name-calling and mud slinging could be pushed aside, and instead, handle disagreements civilly. "I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
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Troz
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Well I love you because you are being YOU and not trying to front some other personality. Sorry I didn't realize that the incident was at a private party in a private home. In that case there is no reason to freak. If ya'll were in Karuna then ya, I'd be freakin, but in someone's house...go for it baby! OH OH! And invite me too! ROFL
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momacita
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Sep. 30 2003, 10:44 pm |
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lol Allyson. I didn't name call her or curse in a form kids would notice in the forums. I know kids read this. BTW when this happened , Bud invited me into HIS home. He seen no problem with me. and with the story of me calling her names.. well I went off on her after she stood up out of nowhere and started calling me a smut mouthed blah blah blah. Which if she had me on ignore she wouldn't have heard it. But I will show I am actually responsible for my actions. Dae don't take this as a way for me wanting to be your friend, cause I don't, I am just owning up to what I did. I apologize to you Dae for calling you names when you pushed me to the limits. I am sorry Bud for letting a person get me to that point and disrespecting your home. I am sorry if there were any kids to have heard some bad things. But I am not sorry for who Iam , nor will I change. I love who I am , and well if you were honest with yourself and who you are , you wouldn't change either.
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lordpenquin
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I mute the voice chat. I consider it unwelcome noise pollution. It's one thing to have a voice club or voice event where everyone uses voice, it's another to just walk around and just blast the voice everywhere. Before I found the mute, I was bothered by random talkers. I know voice is easier than typing, but i kind of like the chat bubbles. It goes with the whole cartoon world kind of theme. I just choose not to listen.
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Troz
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I LOVE voice, unless people start blasting music through their mic...that's just annoying. How do I mute voice ya'll?...just in case
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momacita
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usually I stick carrots in my ears, that helps. Look funny , but it helps.
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Gabriel_Cage
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I love ya Moma, I hope you never change.
For the others.... I don't care where you are. Free Speach and all that ####. Don't like it.... IGNORE works just fine. I use it when ppl stream music thru voice, it's their choice to do it and it bothers me so i put them on ignore. I don't try to force my ideas on them. *my 1 cent* Tune in to Pulse Radio!
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NitaKrn
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voice can be muted people, like cha! there has this nice new utility called VOLUME, you can control the volume of voice, music and the enviroment or just mute everything and blast metal through your speakers like me "Snooch to the Nooch" -Jay of Jay and Silent Bob
"Laaaayyyyyyy" -Jay of Romp.com
"It Stinks!" -Jay Sherman of The Critic
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Allyson
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Troz: There->Customize->World->Volume Just pull the Voice control all the way down That should probably work.
Voice chat can be amusing.. I've actually had people drive by on a buggy, screaming and yelling... only happened a couple of times though. I guess that sort of thing can be annoying after a while, but it was hilarious at the time
But when people start blaring music through their mic, it does get on my nerves.. that's what the sound systems are for, right? It's usually then that I mute VC and turn winamp on. "I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
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Rick_Slick
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I tried to blare Billy Maddison quote .wavs through my mic, but I couldn't switch between WinAmp and There fast enough 
Nothing's funnier than typing in a chat group and suddenly someone blurts out... "HOW BOUT YOU SIDEBURNS? WANT SOME MILK??" or waiting for someone to accept your summon and blurting out in their IM chatbox "T-T-T-T-TODAY, JUNIOR!" At least nothing's funnier to me, anyway. Rick Slick
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BamaBabydoll
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Nothing's funnier than typing in a chat group and suddenly someone blurts out... "HOW BOUT YOU SIDEBURNS? WANT SOME MILK??" or waiting for someone to accept your summon and blurting out in their IM chatbox "T-T-T-T-TODAY, JUNIOR!" At least nothing's funnier to me, anyway. |
Porscha, we need him in the Mindless clicking club....He is like us, easily entertained... All hail Queen Mackie!
Subliminal message: The Lair calls, come to Bama...
(passing popcorn  )
Basking in my ignorance, now I am blissfully unaware. It is the best way to lead a drama free life 
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Ava
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| Quote (Rick_Slick @ Oct. 01 2003, 12:12 am) | I tried to blare Billy Maddison quote .wavs through my mic, but I couldn't switch between WinAmp and There fast enough
Nothing's funnier than typing in a chat group and suddenly someone blurts out... "HOW BOUT YOU SIDEBURNS? WANT SOME MILK??" or waiting for someone to accept your summon and blurting out in their IM chatbox "T-T-T-T-TODAY, JUNIOR!" At least nothing's funnier to me, anyway. |
How about doing 'giddyup next to someone and playing "So hot! Want to touch the hiney! AROOOOOOO....." "....what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."
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Daemona
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| Quote (Rick_Slick @ Sep. 30 2003, 6:24 pm) | | <- all these effeminate little hearts me I still 'hearts you, Daemona, even if I may disagree with you on this, and I hope you still 'hearts me!! |
Ah Rick you know we're good I am a very passionate person and I tend to stick to my guns, but babe I am not gonna sit here and and begrudge you the right to see things differently.
As for the issue of the thread I have stated my opinions and they have not changed. Sin like you mean it!
"I love the life but I never sold my soul" {Kid Rock}
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Daemona
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| Quote (momacita @ Sep. 30 2003, 6:23 pm) | | And also, quit inviting me to your events. I don't want to be in them so don't try. |
Don't worry you have earned a permanent spot on my BAN list sweetie. But don't take it too personally, it's because I allow kids in my clubs and I aim to provide a good family type environment for them to get away from the naughtier adults  Sin like you mean it!
"I love the life but I never sold my soul" {Kid Rock}
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Sumox
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| Quote (momacita @ Sep. 30 2003, 11:52 pm) | | usually I stick carrots in my ears, that helps. Look funny , but it helps. |
ROFL 
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Spliff
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I think this is a very good topic, however I think Daemona and momacita should keep their personal remarks about one another in private messages. If the back and forth continues I will have to lock this topic.
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Oz11
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Right now There is 18 and over, so any children that are inside There are there illegaly, There probly knows this happens but haven't decided to crack down on it yet. With that said, I believe in freedom of speech, and the freedom to not listen to that speech if you don't like it. Its like it is in life, someone could be talking about sex in a park, but you can just walk away. In There its alot easier, if someone is talking about sex in karuna, just ignore them if you don't like it. It may be alot harder if you don't want a minor who is with you to hear it, if that is the case simply say to the minor "Hey, wana go for a buggy ride?" or if you don't want to leave "Hey, that person is being really crude, please ignore them for your own sake." and then the minor will do what they feel, just like an adult they have a choice over what is offensive and what isn't if a guardian isn't over thier shoulder while they are on There. So is it a place for sexually explicit or graphic chatting? No, its a place for ANY kind of chat with its over 18 rule, right now it has an R rating.
"I couldn't see Pirates of the Carribean."
"Why not?"
"Because it was rated AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!" "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
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Static84
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| Quote (Allyson @ Sep. 30 2003, 8:23 pm) | | Quote (Lynn Minmei @ Sep. 30 2003, 9:19 pm) | | Doesn't the There agreement state that you need to be 18 or over to play? If so, then shouldn't you be the one to not let your kids around while you're in There if you think adult stuff is going on? I don't want to get into a big argument or anything but you're pointing the blame finger at There when you're the one that needs to act. Ignore, go somewhere else or tell the kids to go play somewhere else. |
"To be a member, and receive Services you must be at least 18 years old. If you are not 18 years old but you are at least 13 years old, you may still receive Services, but only if your account was created and registered by your parent or guardian."
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Please be properly informed before you go into a rant
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FatHamburger
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Melora have you downloaded seducity?? and run it??
DO NOT RUN SEDUCITY!! the whole thing is a scam. The exe will install "Freecell" but it is a facade for all the other spyware and bs and some kind of script thing it puts on your system. It can potentially mess up your IE completely like it did mine though I think it might have been a side effect of one of the things it modifies.
in any case do not run it, do not touch with 40 foot pole! it is very hard to "remove"
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Arkamir
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I like the comparison of There to a rated R movie. You can't get in unless you are 18 or have someone 18 with you, much like There. Who ever lets their kids play should be mindful of what is in There, the good and the bad. Just like they would a movie.
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Allyson
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| Quote (Arkamir @ Oct. 01 2003, 6:15 pm) | | I like the comparison of There to a rated R movie. You can't get in unless you are 18 or have someone 18 with you, much like There. Who ever lets their kids play should be mindful of what is in There, the good and the bad. Just like they would a movie. |
That would be all well and good if that were the case.. but it's not. There has repeatedly stated that it is a PG-13 community. Children 13-17 only need their parents to create the account, parents are not required to be in There with them. "I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
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Daemona
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Ok it seems the point I was trying to make was taken way too personally. All I ask is that people be mindful of where they are when they launch into the raunchy stuff. Just a little discretion please. Don't change one thing about who you are irl or how you choose to protray yourself through a pixelated game. Just have a little restraint around the kidlets please.
There is no point in debating whether the kids have a right to be here, There has already let them in. Whether that was good or bad on their part is another debate all together. Sin like you mean it!
"I love the life but I never sold my soul" {Kid Rock}
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hiteckart
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That is soooooo....asinine,
You are the original founder of The Mafia, Mother o f all "Mafia" members, and that is not a compliment.
So you started a new "suspect club" that has a clearly underlined motive. In my opinion you have not turned over a new leaf. You mearly picked another from the tree, but it is still tainted with the poision of your There Domination Complex.
You can't fool me sister, (term used losely)
Don't get all "holier than thou" now.
I read your There Card, and it says "blasphemy."
There Police Department Sheriffs
Single In There
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Troz
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sorry ya'll, this has nothing to do with this post, but ARA!!! You are using my old forum-avatar! The hamster...I hope you love him as much as I did...be good to him
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Daemona
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You bring that poison tongue on over here in game sweets and Dona Dae will school you in the arts of domination. And don't worry folks, I do practice what I preach. I'll be sure to draw the shades and lock the door. I wouldn't want your screams frightening the kiddies. Sin like you mean it!
"I love the life but I never sold my soul" {Kid Rock}
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hiteckart
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Techzen
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This is the one thing I liked about the old days when we had to use Team Speak in There. The only ones who could hear what we were saying were the ones invited to join the server. We could say/do anything and only offend our close friends. But times change and so does There.
Dae, I agree to watch what I say a little more closely from now on in There. Maybe I'll take more private convos over to Yahoo voice when they get close to the line. 
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Troz
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Techzen, what exactly was this Team Speak?  That would be SO nice to have back. Then my poor ears wouldn't be baraged by a thousand voices while in a crowded area of Karuna.
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Daemona
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| Quote (hiteckart @ Oct. 01 2003, 2:46 pm) | | You are the original founder of The Mafia, Mother o f all "Mafia" members, and that is not a compliment. |
Sir I do believe you are not giving credit where credit is due. The original founder was Don Nezroy suga. Surely you remember my former boss?
< http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/daemona/history.html >
And snake in the garden of eden? Oh my dear boy you have not the first clue how close you are lol. I am the one you worship with a heart of sin, the one who tempts you again and again! But yes, I do realize young ones are too tender to hear the evil whisperings I will purr into your ear, so we will lock the door! Sin like you mean it!
"I love the life but I never sold my soul" {Kid Rock}
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Daemona
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| Quote (hiteckart @ Oct. 01 2003, 3:01 pm) | | Nezroy was the Father, I do believe I said mother. |
You first said original founder, which I am not. There were two very worthy Don's before I took the mantle. And one was a female, Syn. Actually Syn would be more suited to the title of Mother of the Mafia since she was Nezroy's Second in command (Caporegime Bastone) and became Don when he retired. Sin like you mean it!
"I love the life but I never sold my soul" {Kid Rock}
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WaterSign
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It's nice to know that you are part of The Mafia's history and quite explicitly not its present.
jonathan
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Daemona
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I am currently re-building my empire which we call Mafioso. Come play with us WS I've changed a lot since you and I last danced. Sin like you mean it!
"I love the life but I never sold my soul" {Kid Rock}
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Techzen
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Troz u have a PM
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WaterSign
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Yes, you've changed quite a bit. Much more melodramatic and whiney. At least ten times as much as before. It's even been enough to make people see that I was right all along. I wish you the best in your little Daemona-worship club. I, on the other hand, have long ago taken sides on this little skirmish.
jonathan
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Troz
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Thanx for the info Techzen!
WS, I LOVE your signature!
*Respects WS's authoritiii*
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Rick_Slick
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Yeah, because Hiteckart needs to add it to his police database. Rick Slick
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Nothing's funnier than typing in a chat group and suddenly someone blurts out... "HOW BOUT YOU SIDEBURNS? WANT SOME MILK??" or waiting for someone to accept your summon and blurting out in their IM chatbox "T-T-T-T-TODAY, JUNIOR!" At least nothing's funnier to me, anyway. |
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WaterSign
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| Quote (hiteckart @ Oct. 01 2003, 9:13 pm) | | What side is that? |
The side that I dislike Daemona and would swallow a fistful of razor blades before I ever joined a club head by her.
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Rick_Slick
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| Quote (hiteckart @ Oct. 01 2003, 7:39 pm) | | don't you have some more pinstriped cloths to design, or are you out of ideas and need to instigate a new thread? |
LOL, you're easier to provoke than an atheist crack addict who just started rehab, getting bags of crack thrown at him by people dressed up in large Teletubby costumes screaming Bible verses at the top of their lungs. Rick Slick
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Rick_Slick
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| Quote (Guest @ Oct. 01 2003, 7:51 pm) | "What day is it today?"
"October?" |
"Now you're all in big, big trouble." Rick Slick
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StarManta
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July 2003
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Uhhh, is it time to lock this thread yet?
Before that happens, I'm pro-Ignore.... Live near Cincinatti? Wanna meet other Thereians?
IM me ingame or PM me here to receive updates about any RL gatherings planned.
Next gathering:
Sometime around Christmas?
Somewhere around Newport?
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Daemona
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before we lock the thread can someone get Kittenkat busy making those teletubby costumes so we can go throw stuff at Hiteckart while screaming bible verses? And for good measure we can hose down WS while we're at it. He needs a good cool down Sin like you mean it!
"I love the life but I never sold my soul" {Kid Rock}
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Nick_Cordone
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I do believe you said "your empire" correct? Don't take this the wrong way...although I'm sure there's only one way to take this...get off your high horse and come back to reality. Empire?? Thats the most conceded and arrogant thing I've ever heard. And how did this turn into another Mafia vs. Police post. Can you people really not control yourselves?? 
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Allyson
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| Quote (Nick_Cordone @ Oct. 02 2003, 6:25 am) | | And how did this turn into another Mafia vs. Police post. Can you people really not control yourselves?? |
Exactly. I was really enjoying this thread too. :\ "I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
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Bud_Green
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I dont think that anyone under the age of 18 should even be allowed to play this game and furthermore if a parent doesnt do the proper research to make sure that thier son/daughter isnt being subject to anything lewd or unacceptable then that sounds like a parenting problem to me. Being a parent myself i would never let my child in here at least not with out me standing by to make sure they didnt hear/see anything i wouldnt consider acceptable. We have been asking for our own spot for adults for some time now so its not like we havent tried to address the situation as memebers. If your child is sitting near by and can hear the conversation then i guess its time for some headphones but you can always just leave or ignore the person and then you can no longer hear them. I will agree that there is a time and place for this type of behavior and i dont feel it is in front of teens or in the wide open public but somtimes we get lost in whats going on and the convo just breaks out into these types of discussions. Just wondering tho if you are so worried about conduct then why use words like dildo and "tossing the salad" in this post as i am pretty sure that most kids over 10 can read as well as hear. Are any of us not guilty of being sexually lewd at at least one time or another in There? I know i am..I say live and let live and lets remember that this all comes down to what the parents are allowing thier kids to play. I have been to many sites that require that you send in faxed proof of age before you can enter the site. If they can set privilages to have voice or not to enter certian areas then maybe this would be a good way for there to set permissions to an adults only island. I certianly would have no problem sending in my proof of age. Hopefully someone from there will read this and realize that the problem needs to be addressed ASAP. Certianly in this day in age there must be a way to solve this without slandering other people. And i dont wanna hear that the kids can just steal the parents id and fax that in cause once again that comes down to the parents being irresposible and blind to what is going on with thier children.
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WaterSign
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| Quote (Nick_Cordone @ Oct. 02 2003, 7:25 am) | | I do believe you said "your empire" correct? Don't take this the wrong way...although I'm sure there's only one way to take this...get off your high horse and come back to reality. Empire?? Thats the most conceded and arrogant thing I've ever heard. And how did this turn into another Mafia vs. Police post. Can you people really not control yourselves?? |
Don't worry, Nick, she's gone from the Mafia and stuck nursing her wounds with some mediocre small greifer club. The real Mafia, under fab new leadership, doesn't partake in petty arguments like Dae there does. Well, not too many petty ones.
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